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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| Hi guys
This forum has been grat help to me, many subjects regarding good guides, etc..
But i got a question i didnt see in forum, or was just too dumg, getting it with search function.
Im thinking of dropping my Monk Pve and Pvp wise , and was asking for other players exp with this or een some advice.
Im currently lvl 79, 80 when u read this i guess, Music Main with this formation in abfl and pve:
Exo - Sword - BT
Prophet - Witch - Vik
Oracle - Music - Monk
In my merc Room i got : Spear , Arty, Shaman , Archer
was thinking of replacing my monk with an archer , whats ur thoughts ?
thy in advance - Suende |
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Gambler
Posts: 1098
 
| merc u dun really need for pve and abfl: exo, vik, sword, monk. u can get better merc depend on ur play styles. |
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Night Ruler
Posts: 260
Location: Macedon | LBuffalo - 11/2/2009 1:15 AM
merc u dun really need for pve and abfl: exo, vik, sword, monk. u can get better merc depend on ur play styles.
exo's not needed, but still helpful depending on your opponent. monk is mostly useless, and viking.. well, i dont use him and i dont miss it, although i wouldnt say he's totally useless in AB. |
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Monster Expert
Posts: 1510
| Actually viking is pretty good in ABFL and PvE.
Exorcist is not needed, monk isn't too (though protect helps to heal main if there are no other passive healers). Sword could be useful since in ABFL your front would be most likely stunned / frozen, so a good tank might be better than a high dmger. |
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Gambler
Posts: 1098
| nah, music main need more fire power to finish the fight fast in pve, vik r too fat for that. |
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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| hmm, monk is my only merc with passive heals on my main.
so i schouldnt replace him with an archer ?
other option would be princess , but all i read regarding her is : CRAP
any thoughts ?
ill keep my vik, as in pve and abfl i found it to be pretty nice
sincerely
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Gambler
Posts: 1098
| y u need heal ur self when u hiding at back?
not archer, thats even more useless than a monk
if u can finish a fight in 3 turns, then vik r completely useless
abfl maybe useful, but dun see much doppels got nvik.
anyway, some ppl like fats some dont
ps. for princess, very common merc for abfl, the bomb combo do good aoe dmg on range mob too.
and again, auto heal > no heal in abfl
Edited by LBuffalo 11/2/2009 1:59 PM
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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| well , pve its not always 1vs1 , in shadows its 3vs1 
besides im often switching my main to frontline in abfl to prevent spiked melee to die....
cant decide
like my fat vik
edit: ill just leave it, like its atm , thy
Edited by Suende 11/2/2009 2:02 PM
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Gambler
Posts: 1098
| k.... i dun abfl, but seems that ppl rather see there melee die than put main to danger, u dun even have sop on ur monk. |
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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| y sop and protect would be another question , but i like the protect for guaranteed heal every turn |
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Cursed Swordsman
Posts: 89
| I'm pretty sure monk isn't good in abfl. Since none of the top players abfl use monk.
But monk might be valuable for pve just becaues of holy guard. Unless your wearing some amazing gear, you might have trouble fighting some boss without a monk holy guarding. |
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Total Newbie
Posts: 10
| @ level 80 PvP I would suggest replace Oracle with Arty for DI.
Keeping Monk with high protect will keep main healed up 'til end of match when timer starts. By that time your DoT and AoE will have thinned out other's formation and you can focus on main or outlast them.
PvE: monk can easily be replaced by another damage dealer (not 1 spear). Use Oracle and put Arty in place of monk. Monk can be used later at higher levels or against some bosses.
Or for PvE, If you frontline main and use monk with SoP you can replace Exo with another damage/DoT merc
You have a lot of options for PvE including 2 spears on front line by replacing Exo and Witch. |
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Assassin
Posts: 166
| Im lvl 97 fighting 100+ mobs in pve and am pretty much "forced" into using my monk now due to massive stuns and need for hg on front line. (lots of freezers)
In abfl i swap out for princess for my main's passive heal (cannon main) plus she buffs the hell out of my main/cannoneer/inventors/prophs defense and allows me to midline my viking putting proph up front. Im lvl 97 w/ level 80-95 mercs in div 6 and beat most lvl 110+ with mounts and wings/kitty bags. I Have none of the above and less than decent gear on all mercs (+1-2 at most)
Princess in abfl = win.
Just make sure you have an awake scroll or two on your main for massive stun formations (like my own)
PVE:
Vik/LK/BT
Proph/Cannoneer/Spear (swap with inventor for flyers)
Main Cannon/Oracle/Monk
ABFL:
Proph/LK/BT
Vik/Cannoneer/Oracle
Main Cannon/Princess/Inventor |
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Assassin
Posts: 101
| Don't need monk in ABFL and you don't need him in PVE if you got Punisher. |
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Gambler
Posts: 986
| ^You need him for HG. Monk with SoP also makes your main one of the best tanks. Levelling monk is pain, so its usually easier to leave him in the formation.
You can only get punisher at lvl 102, and even then most 102s can't afford to level one to 90+ to make him useful enough in such short notice. |
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Cursed Swordsman
Posts: 80
| I swapped my Monk out for a punisher, i know its far ways away for a lvl 80 something but it worked wonders for me, 110 currently. Given i dont ABFL or FL at all but for PVE his awakening is enough for me, but i would definitely recommend keeping ur monk in a merc room for boss battles, his HG is a true life saver. But not needed in run-of-the-mill battles IMO. |
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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| hmm dunno why high lvls aint got a monk for abfl, i have to confess i really like mine.
hes using hg and awakening pretty often onto targets with the need of one of those spells. but maybe im just lucky^^
my build is doing pretty good in div8, aas i didnt loose a game yet.
till i get my punisher, i guess there will go some time .)
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Cursed Swordsman
Posts: 73
Location: seattle | Suende - 11/4/2009 4:26 PM
hmm dunno why high lvls aint got a monk for abfl, i have to confess i really like mine.
hes using hg and awakening pretty often onto targets with the need of one of those spells. but maybe im just lucky^^
my build is doing pretty good in div8, aas i didnt loose a game yet.
till i get my punisher, i guess there will go some time .)
might be too small of a sample to say accurately, but i just started to ab a couple days ago and have moved from div5 to div2 11-0, with princess and no monk or healer...
remains to be seen about div 1 though |
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Gambler
Posts: 875
| The reason people don't use monks for abfl is because they are unreliable at doing what their intended purpose is. My 2 monk build often times gets fully stunned in abfl because my monks would rather basic attack instead of awaken, or holy guard a combo 2 row only to have them stunned the next turn. Mercs such as princess and prophet are popular because it doesn't matter how stupid the ai is, they are healing your team regardless. |
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Gambler
Posts: 1210
| i use princess + prophet, no oracle or monk. princess beat out oracle for a spot because she stops stun teams cold sometimes, especially cannon+arty. the passive heal helps my main a lot too. monk lost his spot to ele, which just rapes melee heavy teams. |
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Assassin
Posts: 166
| Suende - 11/4/2009 7:26 PM
hmm dunno why high lvls aint got a monk for abfl,..........my build is doing pretty good in div8, as i didnt lose a game yet.
What level are you exactly?
Im lvl 98 in div 5 since lvl 89 as I mentioned earlier and pound monk formations (doubles too) even with a heavy stun build. Plus you always have awake scrolls which i use maybe 1 every 5 fights. Won my last 18 fights in a row vs lvls 110-115 w/kitty bags/wings, full freezing gear, spartans, punishers, and mounts. (of which i have none of the above) and only reason I cant move up in divs is Im not lvl 100 yet. Princess + proph > Monk anyday in abfl. |
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Total Newbie
Posts: 7
| im lvl 83 atm , playing in div8 , stats 20-1 , 1 lost due to disconnect ,
dunno my monks does a pretty good job so far.. HG 2nd row pretty often
same for oracle. wins me some games, healing my main or frontrow..
but yeah i get the point in princess... maybe ill replace her with oracle
thy so far |
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Cursed Swordsman
Posts: 63
| no monk in PVE is amazing [ can get another damage or even a proph / princess ]
monk in abfl, mine usually does nothing but use up my elixirs and HG once in a while |
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ur experience with monkless ABFL and PVE
